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Remember
Good Helicopters (even kits) Aren't Cheep.
More Important,
Cheep Helicopters Aren't Safe
and Can/HAVE KILLED

Before Buying Anything, New or Used
I strongly suggest you personally observe the designer and or manufacture (not just the company's test pilots) flying there product at altitude (not just hovering around) many many times before you invest your money n possibly your life in their helicopter...

If  the designer or manufacture comes up with ANY excuse why they don't personally fly there craft, the writing is on the wall, READ it n move on to another manufacture that has the confidence in there craft to fly it above 100 feet regularly.

And the same goes for used/experimental helicopters. If the owner/builder does NOT have the confidence in his craft to give you full flight demonstration (autos, hover autos, quick stops, flights at altitude) the writing is once again on the wall, READ it and move on.

I have personally seen the manufactures n used helicopter owners that fly there craft at altitude n I have also seen the ones that don't fly there craft more than a few feet off  the ground. Statistically, one is LOTS less likely to kill than the other.
Remember, the life you save is Yours....


A good book 4 U

Chicken Hawk is a story of a young boy that goes thru US Army  Warrant Officer Flight School becoming both a helicopter pilot and a man. The story starts in the late 60 in the USA, than onto VietNamClick on Book Cover to order with Amazon.com on line Book Storeand back. The author Bob Mason tells how he almost washed out of pre flight school but was allowed to take the "Hell Month" over again (6o days of Hell Month) and  almost a year later earned his wing as a Warrant Officer. He tells how he and many other set up one of the first Air Cavalry Divisions (perhaps the first, I can't remember). Any way, I  enjoyed Bob's book so much I have actually read 3 times so far and most likely will again. It is a great book for any one fascinated with the whirling wing/helicopter and or VietNam helicopter aviation. If you are forgetful like me, you can enjoy it 3 times for only $8.76 thru Amazon.com. Click here to order Chicken Hawk..........


The Sixth Annual Gyro Gathering
will be held Memorial Day weekend, Saturday May 27 and Sunday May 28,
at the Granbury Airport, located in Granbury, Tx, 37 miles South West of Ft. Worth via US 377.
Event will be sponsored by PRA Chapters 78 and 007.
For more information and directions to airport, contact prachapter007@techemail.com
or phone 972-617-3901 evenings.


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Brantly News

 First, the Brantly website (www.brantly.com) now has a page dedicated to the technical aspects of Newby O. Brantly’s helicopter design.

 In particular, you can read about the doubly articulated blade concept. This should help answer some questions raised in the newsgroup. Personally, I’d like to see even more info eventually. I remember when I was an aeronautical engineering student and I would just eat this
 stuff up. Still do.

 Second, Brantly International will be at Sun-N-Fun in Lakeland FL from April 9 to 15 at booth AC-2. This booth is located between the flightline and the main booth area. If you’ve never seen a Brantly up close, this could be your best opportunity. If you haven’t seen one in a while then you can have a look at all the improvements and upgrades we’ve made.

 Plus, the website has the usual additional stuff like more pictures and a press release.

 Hope you like the website. Let me know if you find any problems with it whether it be broken links or spelling mistakes. Also, I’m open to suggestions.
 

 Gilles Lehoux  (webmaster@brantly.com)
 Aeronautical Engineer/Webmaster
 Brantly International Inc.
 www.brantly.com

Ps The Brantly B-2B is a 3-bladed, 2-seater piston engine helicopter. 100% made in the USA.


I (the host of SHnPGIE) has been wondering what is going on w/the M5oo n actually posted a request for info on the subject a short time back. So far, nothing has come in. I just found the below on deja.com about the M5oo n ironicly compairing it to the bird I built/own n fly n  thought is vary worth reprinting here (not jsut because I own the CH-7).

Rotax 582, Mini 5oo n the CH-7 Angel
from deja.com

The CH-7 has not experienced the same problems that the Mini-500 has despite their common lineage and powerplant.

Well, I'm curious myself. Are there enough hours on the CH-6/7 and as many out there to give an accurate comparison?

 Hello,  Mr Extreme

Yes, there are enough hours on the CH7 Angel fleet. Helisport have flown more than 3000 hours. And over 2000 hours have been reached by the CH7 fleet in Europe. The most interesting thing however is that there was reported not a single forced landing due to engine seize of the
 Rotax 582.

Only to your information: I' m myself a proud owner of a CH7, I' m going to become an aerospace engineer and I' m a professional helicopter pilot within German Army Aviation

Based on this figures there can be no doubt, that IT IS NOT THE PROBLEM of ROTAX (!!!).

But it would be a little too short to say that the seize of an engine is no engine problem at all - of course it is.

1st    The first question is: Propper cooling at a propper power setting.

2nd    The next question is: Minimized vibrations caused by the engine and the power transmission.

When you take a closer look at these points once on the Mini500 and once on the CH7 you (as a non engineer) will only see minor differences. But these differences are essential.

A friend of mine installed some baggage compartment under the fuselage of his CH7. During flight test he saw  very soon, that the flow of colling air to the radiators was insufficient - he returned before the engine quit and modified his compartment.

Some months later he saw the construcion of Elisport - and he was astonished - it looked very much alike as his (In engineering one would call this a form follows funcion method :-) ) I only coose this example to tell you, that similar proplems demand similar or even the same countermeasures.

As everyone in this newsgroup has now seen, the operation RPM differ between the Mini500 and the CH7. An other fact is, that the output power in the flight-manuals of Mr. Fettner were not measured in the propper way. (I just wonder if there is really no owner of a Mini500 on this planet who did it in the right way ????)

The next point is, that there is a cooling problem under the cowling of a Mini500. (I would simply use a smoke generator to see the flow of air through the radiators in all stages of flight - of course a wind tunnel simulation/testing might be the best way) But besides these eningeering failures, there are others, too. One is a lack in structural safety - or in other words a underdimensioned fuselage. This in combination with the vibrationlevel caused by power
generation/transmission and... produces a high level of material fatigue.  A friend of mine experienced this after a forced landing with a Mini (Take a look at his hompage: http://home.t-online.de/home/hubschrauber-otto/  )

An other one is the joint between the landing gear and the main fuselage. On the CH7 the bending forces of the landing gear are NOT transmitted into the main-fuselage. When you look at the Mini500: The skids are stiffly fixed to the mainframe....

My personal opinion: ALL these points in their combination are the reason of the mishap of the Mini and all involved people.

If you want a safe helicopter it's no use to solve only one of these critical points - one has to solve them all (!).

And here is the real problem:
         Every engineer knows this
         Every sales-person knows this (but won't tell it)
         Every owner wants to ignore it - because the amount of money needed is high.
         Every one who takes a closer look will see that the best way will be to take all the parts
         of the powerplant out of the kit and buy the fuselage, powertransmission and exterior of a
         CH7.

Before all off you stone me: Please take a close look on to the facts. If you don't trust my arguments especially about the structural safety - CALL a professional engineer that is familiar with finite-element-methods on leightweight structures (NASTRAN,Pro/E,....). And then - do whatever is needed to achieve safety.

I hope all of you will advance in solving the whole problem.

With kind regards from Bavaria,  Robert
 

 Robert W. Wittmann
 mail to: RobertWWittmann@gmx.de
 University of The German Armed Forces
 -  Aerospace Engineering -
 German Army Aviation


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Below sign 4 sale on eBay

To save: Place your pointer on the sign - Right Click your rodent button - Select "Save Image As"  - Select the file/place you want your computer to save it.
U did it.
Suggest you do as I to keep your hard drive from choking with fotos, pop in a 1.44 floppy disk n choose A: as the destination to save the above.

What is the news on the Mini 5oo?
With 4oo+ of um, something must B going on.
eM if U can provide SHnPGIE's readers the latest.

Aviation Humor
A Huey Cobra practicing auto-rotations during a military night training exercise had a problem and landed on the tail rotor, separating the tail boom. Fortunately, it wound up on its skids, sliding down the runway doing 360s in a brilliant shower of sparks. As the Cobra passed the
tower, the following exchange was overheard:

 Tower: "Sir, do you need any assistance?"

 Cobra: "I don't know, tower. We ain't done crashin' yet!"
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The controller working a busy pattern told the 727 on downwind to make a three-sixty (do a complete circle, usually to provide spacing between aircraft). The pilot of the 727 replied, "Do you know it costs us two thousand dollars to make a three-sixty in this airplane?"

 Without missing a beat the controller replied, "Roger, give me four thousand dollars worth!"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ PSA was following United, taxiing out for departure. PSA called the tower and said "Tower, this is United 586. We've got a little problem, so go ahead and let PSA go first".

The tower promptly cleared PSA for takeoff before United 586 had a chance to object to the impersonation!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ A DC-10 had an exceedingly long landing rollout after landing with his approach speed just a little too high. "American 751 Heavy, turn right at the end if able. If not able, take the Guadalupe exit off of Highway 101 back to the airport."
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ It was a really nice day, right about dusk, and a Piper Malibu was being vectored into a long line of airliners in order to land at Kansas City.

KC Approach: "Malibu three-two-Charlie, you're following a 727, one o'clock and three miles."

Three-two-Charlie: "We've got him. We'll follow him."

KC Approach: "Delta 105, your traffic to follow is a Malibu, eleven o'clock and three miles. Do you have that traffic?"

Delta 105: (long pause and then in a thick southern drawl)

Well......I've got something down there. Can't quite tell if it's a Malibu or a Chevelle, though."
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Tower: "Eastern 702, cleared for takeoff, contact Departure on 124.7."

Eastern 702: "Tower, Eastern 702 switching to Departure...by the way, as we lifted off, we saw some kind of dead animal on the far end of the runway."

Tower: "Continental 635, cleared for takeoff, contact Departure on 124.7...did you copy the report from Eastern?"

Continental 635: "Continental 635, cleared for takeoff...and yes, we copied Eastern and we've already notified our caterers."


The Cradle of Naval Aviation
US Navy Aviation Museum

Dear Sir
  I am seeking information on the VJ-1X sport helicopter, whose plans are sold by Windspire, Inc, (www.windspire.com )which has no further information on this item.  It is a single-bladed pulsejet helicopter.

  I seek the following info:
  (a) who developed the VJ-1X and when did it first fly?
  (b) what are its flying characteristics and control?
  (c) what prior single bladed helicopters are there that have flown in the sport helicopter field?

Thank you for any information you can provide. I am a researcher working on the flight theory of
single-bladed helicopters.

Francis Graham
Assistant Professor Physics
Kent State University
400 East 4th Street
East Liverpool OH 43920
fgraham@kenteliv.kent.edu ;
francisgraham@rocketmail.com
30-385-3805


I need a mecanics of Helicopeters for the Bell 222 in Brasil...
The Mecanic have come to Belem Brasil ok
Help-me Please....
Tanks
Melo
Obrigado

Wanted to buy
Set of R22 MR blades.
Need about 1,ooo hours remaining.
eM me

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A Few
Good Helicopter n Aviation
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You may like to read
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I just wanted to take a few moments to suggest a few helicopter n aviation related books I have read and enjoyed.  Below are a few paper backs that you being a HoverLover/Rotor Head most likely will also enjoy reading as I did.
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If you are the non shopping type as I am, just click on the book's foto or the book's name and you will be beamed directly to the on line book store I used, "Amazon.com". Just give um a few minuets of your time (less time than it would take to park your car and walk in to the mall) along w/ your name, address n credit card number and in a few days the book will magically materialize in your mail box.

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Chicken Hawk is a story of a young boy that goes thru US Army  Warrant Officer Flight School becoming both a helicopter pilot and a man. The story starts in the late 60 in the USA, than onto VietNamClick on Book Cover to order with Amazon.com on line Book Storeand back. The author Bob Mason tells how he almost washed out of pre flight school but was allowed to take the "Hell Month" over again (6o days of Hell Month) and  almost a year later earned his wing as a Warrant Officer. He tells how he and many other set up one of the first Air Cavalry Divisions (perhaps the first, I can't remember). Any way, I  enjoyed Bob's book so much I have actually read 3 times so far and most likely will again. It is a great book for any one fascinated with the whirling wing/helicopter and or VietNam helicopter aviation. If you are forgetful like me, you can enjoy it 3 times for only $8.76 thru Amazon.com. Click here to order Chicken Hawk..........
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Almost every one knows Chuck YeagerClick on Book Cover to order with Amazon.com on line Book Store was the first human to break the sound barrier. But the story that leads up to him being in the right place at the right time and having "the Right Stuff" is equally as interesting as his mach 1 story. If I remember correctly (I read this one a few years back n only once) this book also starts out when Chuck was a young man on a farm, following him thru Army flight school, a W.W.II P51 pilot in Europe and back to Murrock/Eedwards AF Base, retiring a Air Force Brig. General....... Great human aviation story, great W.W.II story and great aviation history story all rapped up in one book for just 6 bucks thru Amazon.com. Click here to order eager......
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Click on Book Cover to order with Amazon.com on line Book StoreYou may have seen the movie or perhaps the segment on 6o minuets or 2o/2o type TV show recently. What a story that starts with a grope of young soccer players on a twin engine turbo prop plane flying thru the Andes in Chili South America and does not make it. I do not want to give it a way, but is is a great story and just keeps on coming and coming as you turn the page. Once again, I read this one a few years ago and with my memory, I will take it with me on my next long airline flight and read/enjoy it all over. Alive is also a bargain at $5.59 thru Amazon.com. Click here to order here to order Alive..........

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Click on Book Cover to order with Amazon.com on line Book StoreFire Birds, is another VietNam helicopter book. I just ordered this one and as yet have not read it. Due to my busy life in the summer trying to make 12 months worth of  income in the 6 months ice cream season (my real job), it will take me a while. I will tell you about it as I go thru it. Fire Birds is only $5.20 thru Amazon.com. Click here to order Fire Birds
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Click on Book Cover to order with Amazon.com on line Book StoreCentaur Flights $4.79 is about an Cobra Gun Ship (AH-1G) helicopter pilot during his one year of duty in VietNam  from 1969 to 1970.  Click Click here to order Centaur Flights..........
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Click on Book Cover to order with Amazon.com on line Book StoreLow Level Hell $4.4o is a first hand account by a  21 year old Scout Pilot (Hugh 5oo) in the Big Red One. If I remember correctly, a Scout primary job it to flies low to draw fire/expose the Viet Cong (VC) from the position for the orbiting Cobras over head.
Click Click here to order Low Level Hell...........