Before Buying Anything, New or Used
I strongly suggest you personally observe
the designer and or manufacture (not just the company's test pilots) flying
there product at altitude
(not just hovering around) many many times before you invest your money
n possibly your life in their helicopter...
If the designer or manufacture comes up with ANY excuse why they don't personally fly there craft, the writing is on the wall, READ it n move on to another manufacture that has the confidence in there craft to fly it above 100 feet regularly.
And the same goes for used/experimental helicopters. If the owner/builder does NOT have the confidence in his craft to give you full flight demonstration (autos, hover autos, quick stops, flights at altitude) the writing is once again on the wall, READ it and move on.
I have personally seen the manufactures n used
helicopter owners that fly there craft at
altitude n I have also seen the ones that
don't fly there craft more than a few feet off the ground. Statistically,
one is LOTS less likely to kill than the other.
Remember, the life you save
is Yours....
Chicken
Hawk is a story of a young boy that goes thru US Army Warrant
Officer Flight School becoming both a helicopter pilot and a man. The story
starts in the late 60 in the USA, than onto VietNam
and
back. The author Bob Mason tells how he almost washed out of pre flight
school but was allowed to take the "Hell Month" over again (6o days of
Hell Month) and almost a year later earned his wing as a Warrant
Officer. He tells how he and many other set up one of the first Air Cavalry
Divisions (perhaps the first, I can't remember). Any way, I enjoyed
Bob's book so much I have actually read 3 times so far and most likely
will again. It is a great book for any one fascinated with the whirling
wing/helicopter and or VietNam helicopter aviation. If you are forgetful
like me, you can enjoy it 3 times for only $8.76 thru Amazon.com. Click
here
to order Chicken Hawk..........
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I tryed eMing you back but my letter to you was returned because of a bad address. Possibly U need 2 check you return address/reply to setting or just manualy send me your eM address...
Glennnnnnnnnnnnnnn
First, the Brantly website (www.brantly.com) now has a page dedicated to the technical aspects of Newby O. Brantly’s helicopter design.
In particular, you can read about the doubly articulated blade
concept. This should help answer some questions raised in the newsgroup.
Personally, I’d like to see even more info eventually. I remember
when I was an aeronautical engineering student and I would just eat this
stuff up. Still do.
Second, Brantly International will be at Sun-N-Fun in Lakeland FL from April 9 to 15 at booth AC-2. This booth is located between the flightline and the main booth area. If you’ve never seen a Brantly up close, this could be your best opportunity. If you haven’t seen one in a while then you can have a look at all the improvements and upgrades we’ve made.
Plus, the website has the usual additional stuff like more pictures and a press release.
Hope you like the website. Let me know if you find any problems
with it whether it be broken links or spelling mistakes. Also, I’m
open to suggestions.
Gilles Lehoux
(webmaster@brantly.com)
Aeronautical Engineer/Webmaster
Brantly International Inc.
www.brantly.com
Ps The Brantly B-2B is a 3-bladed, 2-seater piston engine helicopter. 100% made in the USA.
Rotax 582, Mini 5oo n the CH-7 Angel
from deja.com
The CH-7 has not experienced the same problems that the Mini-500 has despite their common lineage and powerplant.
Well, I'm curious myself. Are there enough hours on the CH-6/7 and as many out there to give an accurate comparison?
Hello, Mr Extreme
Yes, there are enough hours on the CH7 Angel fleet.
Helisport have flown more than 3000 hours. And over 2000 hours have been
reached by the CH7 fleet in Europe. The most interesting thing however
is that there was reported not a single forced landing due to engine seize
of the
Rotax 582.
Only to your information: I' m myself a proud owner of a CH7, I' m going to become an aerospace engineer and I' m a professional helicopter pilot within German Army Aviation
Based on this figures there can be no doubt, that IT IS NOT THE PROBLEM of ROTAX (!!!).
But it would be a little too short to say that the seize of an engine is no engine problem at all - of course it is.
1st The first question is: Propper cooling at a propper power setting.
2nd The next question is: Minimized vibrations caused by the engine and the power transmission.
When you take a closer look at these points once on the Mini500 and once on the CH7 you (as a non engineer) will only see minor differences. But these differences are essential.
A friend of mine installed some baggage compartment under the fuselage of his CH7. During flight test he saw very soon, that the flow of colling air to the radiators was insufficient - he returned before the engine quit and modified his compartment.
Some months later he saw the construcion of Elisport - and he was astonished - it looked very much alike as his (In engineering one would call this a form follows funcion method :-) ) I only coose this example to tell you, that similar proplems demand similar or even the same countermeasures.
As everyone in this newsgroup has now seen, the operation RPM differ between the Mini500 and the CH7. An other fact is, that the output power in the flight-manuals of Mr. Fettner were not measured in the propper way. (I just wonder if there is really no owner of a Mini500 on this planet who did it in the right way ????)
The next point is, that there is a cooling problem
under the cowling of a Mini500. (I would simply use a smoke generator to
see the flow of air through the radiators in all stages of flight - of
course a wind tunnel simulation/testing might be the best way) But besides
these eningeering failures, there are others, too. One is a lack in structural
safety - or in other words a underdimensioned fuselage. This in combination
with the vibrationlevel caused by power
generation/transmission and... produces a high
level of material fatigue. A friend of mine experienced this after
a forced landing with a Mini (Take a look at his hompage: http://home.t-online.de/home/hubschrauber-otto/
)
An other one is the joint between the landing gear and the main fuselage. On the CH7 the bending forces of the landing gear are NOT transmitted into the main-fuselage. When you look at the Mini500: The skids are stiffly fixed to the mainframe....
My personal opinion: ALL these points in their combination are the reason of the mishap of the Mini and all involved people.
If you want a safe helicopter it's no use to solve only one of these critical points - one has to solve them all (!).
And here is the real problem:
Every engineer knows this
Every sales-person knows this (but won't tell it)
Every owner wants to ignore it - because the amount of money needed is
high.
Every one who takes a closer look will see that the best way will be to
take all the parts
of the powerplant out of the kit and buy the fuselage, powertransmission
and exterior of a
CH7.
Before all off you stone me: Please take a close look on to the facts. If you don't trust my arguments especially about the structural safety - CALL a professional engineer that is familiar with finite-element-methods on leightweight structures (NASTRAN,Pro/E,....). And then - do whatever is needed to achieve safety.
I hope all of you will advance in solving the whole problem.
With kind regards from Bavaria, Robert
Robert W. Wittmann
mail to: RobertWWittmann@gmx.de
University of The German Armed Forces
- Aerospace Engineering -
German Army Aviation
This helicopter
must be seen to appreciate the quality of construction. It took the "Outstanding
Trophy for Workmanship"at Oshkosh in 1994 and the"Best Craftsmanship" at
the Rotorway open house in 1993. No damage, dual electronic ignition, chain
oiler, thermostat, elastomeric hub, asymmetrical blades, intercom, radio,
dual controls, and more. Also I have a 30 foot self contained trailer with
living quarters in the front and room for the helicopter in the rear. Call
520 625-7557
Tower: "Sir, do you need any assistance?"
Cobra: "I don't know, tower. We ain't done crashin' yet!"
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The controller working a busy pattern told the 727 on downwind to make
a three-sixty (do a complete circle, usually to provide spacing between
aircraft). The pilot of the 727 replied, "Do you know it costs us two thousand
dollars to make a three-sixty in this airplane?"
Without missing a beat the controller replied, "Roger, give me
four thousand dollars worth!"
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PSA was following United, taxiing out for departure. PSA called the tower
and said "Tower, this is United 586. We've got a little problem, so go
ahead and let PSA go first".
The tower promptly cleared PSA for takeoff before United 586 had a chance
to object to the impersonation!
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A DC-10 had an exceedingly long landing rollout after landing with his
approach speed just a little too high. "American 751 Heavy, turn right
at the end if able. If not able, take the Guadalupe exit off of Highway
101 back to the airport."
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It was a really nice day, right about dusk, and a Piper Malibu was being
vectored into a long line of airliners in order to land at Kansas City.
KC Approach: "Malibu three-two-Charlie, you're following a 727, one o'clock and three miles."
Three-two-Charlie: "We've got him. We'll follow him."
KC Approach: "Delta 105, your traffic to follow is a Malibu, eleven o'clock and three miles. Do you have that traffic?"
Delta 105: (long pause and then in a thick southern drawl)
Well......I've got something down there. Can't quite tell if it's a
Malibu or a Chevelle, though."
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Tower: "Eastern 702, cleared for takeoff, contact Departure on 124.7."
Eastern 702: "Tower, Eastern 702 switching to Departure...by the way, as we lifted off, we saw some kind of dead animal on the far end of the runway."
Tower: "Continental 635, cleared for takeoff, contact Departure on 124.7...did you copy the report from Eastern?"
Continental 635: "Continental 635, cleared for takeoff...and yes, we copied Eastern and we've already notified our caterers."
I seek the following info:
(a) who developed the VJ-1X and when did it first fly?
(b) what are its flying characteristics and control?
(c) what prior single bladed helicopters are there that have
flown in the sport helicopter field?
Thank you for any information you can provide. I am a researcher working
on the flight theory of
single-bladed helicopters.
Francis Graham
Assistant Professor Physics
Kent State University
400 East 4th Street
East Liverpool OH 43920
fgraham@kenteliv.kent.edu ;
francisgraham@rocketmail.com
30-385-3805

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and
back. The author Bob Mason tells how he almost washed out of pre flight
school but was allowed to take the "Hell Month" over again (6o days of
Hell Month) and almost a year later earned his wing as a Warrant
Officer. He tells how he and many other set up one of the first Air Cavalry
Divisions (perhaps the first, I can't remember). Any way, I enjoyed
Bob's book so much I have actually read 3 times so far and most likely
will again. It is a great book for any one fascinated with the whirling
wing/helicopter and or VietNam helicopter aviation. If you are forgetful
like me, you can enjoy it 3 times for only $8.76 thru Amazon.com. Click
here
to order Chicken Hawk..........
was the first human to break the sound barrier. But the story that leads
up to him being in the right place at the right time and having "the Right
Stuff" is equally as interesting as his mach 1 story. If I remember correctly
(I read this one a few years back n only once) this book also starts out
when Chuck was a young man on a farm, following him thru Army flight school,
a W.W.II P51 pilot in Europe and back to Murrock/Eedwards AF Base, retiring
a Air Force Brig. General....... Great human aviation story, great W.W.II
story and great aviation history story all rapped up in one book for just
6 bucks thru Amazon.com. Click here
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You
may have seen the movie or perhaps the segment on 6o minuets or 2o/2o type
TV show recently. What a story that starts with a grope of young soccer
players on a twin engine turbo prop plane flying thru the Andes in Chili
South America and does not make it. I do not want to give it a way, but
is is a great story and just keeps on coming and coming as you turn the
page. Once again, I read this one a few years ago and with my memory, I
will take it with me on my next long airline flight and read/enjoy it all
over.
Alive
is also a bargain at $5.59 thru Amazon.com. Click here to order here
to order Alive..........
Fire
Birds, is another VietNam helicopter book. I just ordered this one
and as yet have not read it. Due to my busy life in the summer trying to
make 12 months worth of income in the 6 months ice cream season (my
real job), it will take me a while. I will tell you about it as I go thru
it. Fire Birds is only $5.20 thru Amazon.com. Click
here to order Fire Birds
Centaur
Flights $4.79 is about an Cobra Gun Ship (AH-1G) helicopter pilot during
his one year of duty in VietNam from 1969 to 1970. Click Click
here to order Centaur Flights..........
Low
Level Hell $4.4o is a first hand account by a 21 year old Scout
Pilot (Hugh 5oo) in the Big Red One. If I remember correctly, a Scout primary
job it to flies low to draw fire/expose the Viet Cong (VC) from the position
for the orbiting Cobras over head.