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Theft of a CH7-Angel in Germany

Location: EDNC (Beilngries) - Altmühltal
Registration D-HBGB
Engine: Rotax 912
Colour: yellow
Appearance (similar to): http://www.webrotor.de/ch7-912.htm

It's impossible to sell this aircraft or any of its components because every serial number is registered in the documents. So if anybody has evidence about unusual cheap Rotax 912 or helicopter components of a CH7 do not hessitate to e-mail me or the german police
http://www.polizei.bayern.de/welcome.htm

The police department that is involved with the investigation is:

Direktion, Inspektion und Kriminalinspektion
Esplanade 40,
85049 Ingolstadt,
Tel. +49 8 41 93 43-0

The owner has announced to pay a reward of 2.500,-EUR.


 51 - 49% Question

I found a OH58 (civilian 206 Jet Ranger) with no data plate, no paper work, in pieces (including some skin and supports removed), but everything  seems to be there.

Since I can buy it a lot cheaper than a Rotorway kit, does any one know for SURE if I can a person rebuild it from ground up (there is more than  50% assembly to complete it) and register it under expermential.

Somebody please answer or send me to the right place to answer this question.

Thank you, Wayne Moore - central Mississippi USA

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Hi Glennnnn  , This is for the  builder question on the OH 58 ,,It can be done with any
helicopter,providing its done by the manuals for the aircraft and the finished product meets the
type certificate for that A/C and all the time life components meet the serviceability limits.
For the OH 58  it will fall under print 58 X. and the (cant remember the code numbers for the
Mill Manuals) TM 55-1620-10  (wrong # but same format) 20 years ago,just document the work
and have a good working relation ship with the local FSDO . Good Luck  to the big dreamer. Be
safe... Don

--- DONALD HILLBERG
--- rotermouse@earthlink.net


Future Pilots

Aerial Fire Trucks in Itlay

Info Request

Hi, maybe you can help me . I am looking for plans to build a VW powered helicopter using the VW "suitcase engine".  That is the engine that was used in the hatchback. It has the fan mounted on the front of the crankshaft similar to the California made Robinson. Any help in this area? Thanks, Bernie Lucas


T62T-16a2's
Hello,
My name is Tim Condrey and I work for Siller Bros., Aviation Division. I am looking for t62t-16a2's. Do you have any or know where to get them? please advise.

Tim Condrey
tmcondrey@yahoo.com
Phone (800)348-4880
Fax(530)673-5872


I left Chicago heading toward Milwaukee, when I decided

to stop at a comfort station. The first stall was occupied,

so I went into the second one. I was no sooner seated than

I heard a voice from the next stall:

"Hi, how are you doing?"

Well, I am not the type to chat with strangers in highway comfort stations, and I really don't know quite what possessed me, but anyway, I answered, a little embarrassed:

"Not bad."

And the stranger said: "And, what are you up to?"

Talk about your dumb questions! I was really beginning to think this was too weird! So I said:

"Well, just like you I'm driving east."

Then, I heard the stranger, all upset, say, "Look, I'll call you back, there's some idiot in the next stall answering all the questions I am asking you."


Aerospatiale

SHnPGIE
Could you or one of your readers help me locate a flight manual and maintenance manual
for an Aerospatiale Alouette II (SE-3130)(not an Alouette III)? I am also trying to locate a
maintenance manual for the Artouste II C-6 turboshaft engine. No luck at Thomson's, Westair, E-bay, half.com or the other usual suspects. Copies are O.K., and cheaper is better than expensive (they're for personal use).

Thank you!

Tom Algeo
tsalgeo@algeo.com




Fantasitc Fixed Wing Final Approach Footage
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The SmithSonian's Bell 47J
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Construction n First Flight Story n Fotos
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Humming Bird

Brantly
   Date:  Sun, 21 Apr 2oo2

Looking for blades, etc, for a Brantly B2B - please email if you have anything.

Chris Welsh


The Value of Seat Belts

French Helicopter Web Site

More Progress on Todd's Safari


A note to Pres. Bush today (o4-o4-o2) from SHnPGIE's host
Sir,

Concerning your talk this morning on the Mid East:

Perhaps you forgot to mention that it is up to each n every person on this small planet to get along with his or her neighbors.

and

It is also an individual's responsibility for each citizen of planet earth to NOT pass on any of their prejudices to the younger generations.

We/the USA or any one else for that fact can not permanently fix the problem in the Mid East, an entire region that has seemed to hate n kill it's neighbors for at lease since man has been writing on rocks. The permanent solution is up to ALL it's residents, not just the governments involved.

Thanks for your time,

Glenn Ryerson

eM Pers. Bush your 2 cents
View Other SHnPGIE's  comments on the Mid East


For Sale

HELI HOLLAND
Rene Haring
Phone +31 591 351251 or
Fax      +31 591 352769
Email : info@heliholland.nl

2 EA  HELICOPTERS   SCHWEIZER 269 C

FOR SALE OR LEASE

HELICOPTER 1

AVAILABLE DUE TO TRADE IN ON EUROCOPTER EC 120

Total time  653 hrs ,  year of constr. 1992,   no accidents history,  all mod’s/ AD  updated, color  white,  one owner since new. All components 653 hrs  since new except  M/R shaft  (558 hrs since new) and M/R gearbox pinion/ ringgear (50 hrs  since new)

Equipment: dual controls, dual fuel tank, night light’s , muffler / or stack ups, anti coll. lights,  KY 96 comm, KT 76 transponder, garmin 100 GPS, START UP LIMITER (from day one), Art. Horizon, Directional  Gyro, Vert. Speed indicator.

HELICOPTER  2

AVAILABLE DUE TO TRADE IN ON EUROCOPTER EC 120

Total time  1270 hrs ,  year of constr. 1991,   no accidents history, all mod’s/ AD  updated, color  white/blue,  one owner since new. All components  1270 hrs  since new except  M/R gearbox pinion/ ringgear (400 hrs  since new)

Equipment: dual controls, dual fuel tank, night light’s , muffler, anti coll. lights,  KY 96 comm, KT 76 transponder.

 For information  Rene Haring

Phone +31 591 351251
Fax     +31 591 352769
email: info@heliholland.nl


Naturally SHnPGIE/I have been receiving a few comments about the below editorial n now I even receive comments on the comments.   This morning I received an anonymous one (see the first paragraph). I suspect you will agree, I welcome all comments, pro or con but will not post n often don't even read the anonymous ones.

Glenn Ryerson,



Dear Mr. Ryerson,

 First, I would like to apologize for my very close friend, Don Hillberg. For the time you can call me Sparky, in order to remain anonymous. This way I can keep a friend from getting himself in to deep. The reason being was that I was there with him and the impression he gave wasn't anything that he described on your website...It boggled me... And I'm truly embarrassed for him.



New
Turbine Powered Multi Bladed Helicopter

I have gotten some eM about a great looking new turbine powered kit helicopter that will be offered with a un necessary - ridicules amount of  both main n tail rotor blade options. The manufacture also boasts that 1oo birds already have sold.

Well,,,,, the dam thing hasn't even hovered yet, let alone each blade system being offered having accumulated a thousand or so honest FLIGHT test hours on EACH option. Did U guys n girls forget about the Mini 5oo or that same manufacture's attempt at a two place, I think it was called the Voyager?

Don't U remember the M5oo was also a vary good looking bird n  it too was sold before it had flown. U forget it was not only a disaster, it dashed the life long hopes and savings of at least 6oo helicopter owner Want-To-Bs along with  killing at least 1o pilots, one of which made it all the way thru Nam as a helicopter pilot, had over 30,ooo helicopter hours when his M5oo killed him.....

Any Way, wake up n smell the coffee mates, there ain't gonna B any free lunch on this one  yet either. Wait till this pretty face of a helicopter has many many DOCUMENTED hours on ALL the versions rotor versions that the manufacture thinks U need. Remember, this is this guy's vary FIRST  attempt to manufacture a helicopter just as was with the P.T. Barnom style dude that made the Mini 5oo.

Perhaps U also don't know that this guy, president/founder of  this new turbine powered bird also was one of the men that had purchased a Mini 5oo not many years back.  So, what does that tell U? It  tells me that not too long ago, he too was obviously not too much of an informed consumer??? But now, all of a sudden this guy is the manufacture of a high performance turbine multi bladed helicopter.

Remember,
The Life n Money U Save is Yours Mate, JUST YOURS.

One more thing to remember, the above is only the opinion of the fool that hosts this web site, Glenn Ryerson, I too don't know my butt from a hole in the ground, but at least
I know that I don't.
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DONALD HILLBERG's
(the father of the Rotermouse)
2 cents on the above helicopter.

I have seen the Mini in Drag, a two place, Allison powered A/C and like Cesear, it gets a thumbs down. I talked to the master  Head cheese and he attacked and defended his baby ,I will list a number of faults in the "Drag Queen" ,And to cover my but, These are my opinions ,(25 years worth)  Now where do I start?

1. Carbon fibre forward cockpit, Once compromised will do nothing to protect the pilots. And
fractured carbon is sharper than sharp ,it will cut you ,stab you, wipe you out.

2. Rounded edges on the tail fan ,Air flow separation / Coannda effect will defect yaw thrust
stability,Increase pilot work load,And  as fat as the attachment is to the tail gear box not good
for flow/noise/use of power.(looks like bow thruster on boat)and as short coupled it will be a
foot full.  (damn it still looks like a bat part)

3.inproper testing of blades (the web site makes no mention of a real test ,pulling the blade up on
a rig is fun to see but its not cyclic load/sympathetic excitement testing used .He makes mention
that he will not have provisions for pallance.Bad bad

4.Engine to Main gear box attachment no give. I can see transient torque loads damaging the
P.T.O. or cracking the engines main gear case, Any twist,bending,or axial misalignment will reduce the service life of the Allison.

5.No fire wall,and any thing in the baggage compartment will wreak of exhaust fumes,Or worse
the composite body or cowl  will light off ,Nothing worse then roasting at 1000 ft,

6.fuel structure said to be molded composite under seat area,I hope its a crash resistant bladder.

7.multi blades to a point is good ,But remember the more blades the more drag in an auto,so like
a 500 or worse the pilot will need a window between his legs to see where hes going. And also the more blades you have the more parts too,and that adds to the cost,and in aerodynamics you will also cost you the unwanted interaction of shed wake vortices rolling under the closely following blade and the increased chance of vortex ring state with so many blades buzzing around above you.

8.Unrealistic performance values,with a steel tube frame,plastic covered body,its not a llama.

9.Nonstandard instrument layout  not good for a pilot too much flash,no function,like a Mini all
show no go.

10. smooth belly ,flow stagnation and random separation points will be hard to hover,like an A
star it will wallow and oscillate  in ground effect.

12. 222 like nacelles drag drag drag  and the rounded edges might induce dutch roll (need
fences)

13.Steel tube frame,Not required for a modern Helicopter.Too heavy for the true designer of
helicopters.( no steel in the 500 or 206 or CH-53 or other high performance Helicopter.)

14.Air flow around engine not uniform might lead to cracking on the hot end or ingestion of
exhaust gases .

15.composite seat area,not a design feature for crash force absourbtion,Once compromised it
will not protest the pilots from injuries,Might even add to the sevarity of injuries sustained.

16.If the hub is machined aluminum and not steel I fear a fretting type failure and blade
separation .(This was just a thought until confirmed by another source.)

17. Untried engine drivetraine combination/surging might be possible ,Ill grant them this one for
now.

18. no room between the rotors and tail boom. I can predict a strike and in flight breakup,Needs
more space.

19.stablizers too big.for desired pitch moment. will nose over in 1st stage of autorotation.adding
to boom strike.

20.Too short coupled needs more length on boom,will not have authority over the torque,

21.My wife (from China) doesn't like it.

So many designers just because they have disposable income think they have the winning
combination and copy a piece of junk and improve on it ,They still have a piece of junk,Its better
to start from scratch and fail then ,succeed with junk that may kill some poor S.O.B. because
good looks can kill.

Don /Rotermouse@earthlink.com              These are my opinions.
 

--- DONALD HILLBERG
--- rotermouse@earthlink.net
View Don Hillberg's hilo experiencs


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